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Rockland
April 15th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Rockland all stars would destroy westchester
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Sportofan
April 15th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Only if played at Sportorama, anywhere in Westchester, it would be the other way around.
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Pond Hockey
April 16th, 2007 at 7:46 am
Rockland would win even if they played on a frozen pond in Wisconsin
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The Real Deal w/ Bill McNeil
April 16th, 2007 at 8:14 am
Ugh, do we need a map? I don’t care where the Fordham players live, their school is in the BRONX. They should not be included in this. Answer me this, if a kid lives in the Bronx, but plays for Iona Prep (located in New Rochelle) can he make the all star team in westchester? YES of course he can because his SCHOOL is in Westchester. Or maybe we should just make a public league all league and a CHSHL all league.
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Silly Stuff
April 16th, 2007 at 11:03 am
Cant we leave well enough alone and let the kids enjoy this? Who cares about West vs Rock and CHSHL vs Sect 1?
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Just Right
April 16th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
the All-County teams are pretty much what I think everyone expected… congrats to all players
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Haha
April 16th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Congrats to ALL the kids – but in weighing in on the Rock vs. Westchester issue, just for fun, I mean come on – I think Rockland’s 3rd team can beat Westchester’s 1st team. Also, pretty sad that, with 6 League 1 teams, Westchester had to dive into a League 2 team to find their 1st Team goalie…
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Haha
April 16th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
... nothing against Rye goalie whatsoever, he is WELL DESERVING of the 1st team… congrats!
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prep
April 16th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
what is the word on shuman and willows going to prep school next year??
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Willows
April 16th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
I hear Willows is defintely going to Prep school… Shuman I don’t know about…if any1 knows any info, please post
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section one fan
April 16th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
Willows is out of North next year, 100%
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really sad
April 17th, 2007 at 8:58 am
and how mach sadder that to make a second team WC had to go to the CHSHL for a goalie….wow they’re bad
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What?
April 17th, 2007 at 10:41 am
I hear rumors that Willows is going to Morristown Beard. He must have taken Mickey Carrol’s advice to go to a sub par hockey team. They are not even a boarding shool. Isn’t the father a coach at North? I hope this is not true. At least go somwhere to get scouted otherwise why not stay at North. All the top players to leave HS early over the past couple of years left after their junior year (Daniels twin, Foster,..) but at least they went to legit hockey programs. This does not look good for North.
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prep
April 17th, 2007 at 11:27 am
where are the daniels twins going? i thought they did pretty well this year…they are at kent correct???
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Prep school
April 17th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Willows’ dad is coach of the North Modified team, and for big games, sometimes an assistant with the Varsity team… North would love to have Willows & Shuman for one more year, then they would be right at the top with Suffern again…
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Prep school
April 17th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
and yes Daniels are at Kent Prep school in Connecticut… and they did well their first year from what I hear…
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prep
April 17th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
are they staying at Kent? or are they leaving like written above
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suffern
April 17th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
could you imagine if daniels twins come back to suffern.. wow what a team
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Joke
April 17th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Morristown Beard is a real joke of a school. There hockey program is on the same level as public, and the school is worse than public. Willows is good, but way overated!
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Please
April 17th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
how could the Daniels twins possible come back, they are already repeating their jr. year, if thats the case, lots of far better players would come back to their high school teams.
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Prep school
April 17th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Willows is a special player… the best since that Foster kid, no doubt…
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retards
April 17th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
i think im pritty good friends with willows. he is going to mo-beard for 1 year and then prob going to nsa. he wants to stay close to home for the first year then go away. and all of you people who say that they are not good are clueless. they would kill any one of the section 1 schools. get real.
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Mo-Beard
April 17th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Mo-Beard was one of the weakest teams last year in their league – GO LOOK IT UP! There are a least 4-5 teams that would have def beaten them easily out of section 1 last year. North played a tougher schedule then them and absolutely would have destroyed them. Why would he leave North which would have a legit shot at beating anyone next year – especially if willows stays. He must be scared of Suffern and loseing to them again.
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Mo-Beard HA!
April 17th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Two words – Mickey Carrol. Willows is the better player but Trinity Pawling would beat Mo-Beard easily and the they absolutely play in the much tougher New England Prep league.
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Prep school
April 17th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
what does NSA stand for?
And yes if little Willows and Shuman stay at North next year, they would once again be a dominate team. You think they didnt come off the ice this year? – Wait till next year – if they stay. Not sure why they would leave North now when all other stars in the past have stayed till at least thru Junior Year – And now that their older brothers are gone, it’s their team.
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not
April 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
no one cares about north. were will north get willows.( no were)... were will willows get north.( pritty far) i think he should get out of there asap especially with all the bs in the school itself. and nsa is national sports acadamy in lake placid
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Mo-Beard
April 18th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Ok NSA is def more legit. I do not think they will deny him admittance if he does not attend Mo-Beard. It is just very hard to grasp why he would leave North (and give up being the team leader and obvious choice for capt) and go to Jersey – there really is not much to gain. It’s just sad to see these players leave Section 1 which has become one of the top Section’s to play in NYS. Plus it would be be nice to see someone challenge Suffern next year.
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The grass is always greener
April 18th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
I’m sure he wont regret it. Just ask Mickey Carroll who left North (one of the top teams in NYS), where he would have been one of the best players on the team to go play for one of the weakest teams in the New England Prep. Ohh and i heard he did not get nearly as much ice time as he once did at North. I’m sure he had fun watching his team lose. It will all be worth it once he makes it to the NHL.
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Prep school
April 18th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
yeah Willows will get into NSA – and I agree with you that he should stay one more year… even Foster stayed thru Junior Year… he would definetely be the Team Leader next year… its his team if he stayed… and yes, it would be fun to see someone challenge Suffern. Suffern would be the favorite, but with North still having Willows, they would sure be nervous…
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Prep school
April 18th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
... and yeah if Mickey Carroll stayed at North he would of had a phenomenal year… imagine him with the Willows & Shumans…North would of been that much better and had that much more depth… 2 great lines…perhaps even enough to win State… oh well…
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itsabreeze
April 18th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
If Its and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a Merry Christmas. The best of any the names mentioned can only hope for is a good education. If anybody thinks any of these players will ever make enough money playing hockey to even pay there O&R bill keep dreaming or start playing lotto the odds are more in there favor with lotto. Hopefully the choice of the prep school is about education. And in the end the way it works anyway is if a player has what it takes they will find you where ever you are playing. one knee injury and its over so get the education and by the the way all the prep school mentioned above in posts are all first class academics with great college placement so my guess is that whats important to these players, I hope so. I hope one of them prove me wrong with the money thing. ” Good Luck”
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what
April 19th, 2007 at 10:13 am
itsabreeze… from that comment i am going to assume you are having trouble paying your O&R bill.. what is important here is that these kids have goals, are working hard towards them.. whether they are to play in the NHL, juniors or just get into a good college or even just be all county… These life lessons will go much further than sitting in AP calculus class. This is a hockey blog not a careers or planning for the future blog.. and not that anyone cares I do have 2 masters degrees..so i am not saying education is not important
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Travel Teams
April 19th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
I was wondering who you guys thought were the top travel teams organizations in Section 1 are, and what high school they mostly feed to…
In Rockland – Ramapo Saints mostly feed to Suffern, do the Clarkstown Capitals feed just as well to North/South?
Thoughts? Opinions?
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saints
April 19th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
i know mcandoe plays for the saints.. so i really don’t think the capitals are feeding anyone special
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Fanotgame
April 19th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Speaking just of the very local travel programs in the Tier III HVHL, the Capitals seem to have a bunch of Clarkstown South skaters. The Vipers have players from several southern Westchester schools (including Ossining, Rye, Mt Pleasant, Scarsdale). Many Mariner and LI Edge players skate in the CHSHL. Mamaroneck Youth hockey feeds Mamaroneck HS. The higher level (Tier 1) NY travel programs (Brewster, Apple Core, Royals, Gulls) draw from all over the place (Long Island, CT, NYC- all boroughs, NJ, Westchester, Rockland, etc.).
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caps
April 19th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Holvig plays Caps with me…he ain’t too bad
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Clarkstown Capitals
April 19th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Capitals seem to be more of a feeder for South rather than North… you still see North players on the Saints… but i know that there are a bunch of Squirts on the Capitals from the North area…
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afan
April 19th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
The Capitals feed North as well (and have had some very good players from North play on their teams)—and over the years have been a feeder for North more than South (with many very good Fordham Prep players on the upper level teams with the North kids) – this year their midget teams will have more players from North varsity (some who left the Saints ) than South varsity, plus some Suffern kids who have been with the Caps for years.
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a cap
April 20th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Most of North’s top players from the their recent 5-8 year good run have come from the Saints. Primarily because the Caps are a newer organization..however old the Palisades Mall is.
As the Caps have aged they are becoming a better feeder for the Clarkstown schools.
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a cap
April 20th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
All county is nice…but in reference to an earlier post…sitting in AP Calculus WILL get you further in life than being All County.
Want proof….Just check out the Palisades Mall Mens League..plenty of former All County stars just lighting up this league.
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ha
April 20th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
that league is for fun and nothing else. have you ever herd of staying on the ice during the summer so when fall comes around your not totally out of it. when you play AAA national you could talk about it but besides that just keep it shut.
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RoCo and WeCo
April 24th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Best players in the section next season?
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Education Prep
April 25th, 2007 at 8:06 am
anyone from Stepinac JV who transfers to a Sec 1 team
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Stepinac Sucks
April 20th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Stepinac is nothing but a bunch of Losers. Stacks their JV teams to win. I predict that they will NEVER WIN THE CHSHL. A bunch of Whiners!
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Last year’s record: 10-10-1 according to
http://www.section1hockey.com/201011Standings.html
The big questions
– How good are the 3 Bosco transfers? – Did they plan on coming over as a group? Linemates? Is this a Willows/Shuman thing? – Can we refer to them as “The Hanson Brothers”? – Do they play travel? – Do they follow the lohud hockey blog? – Do they feel that the windbag clarkstown s left a stain on the reputation of that entire school system and that’s why they stayed away til now?
can we get names on the bosco kids?
Mo, Larry, and Curly
Jack, Steve and Jeff
Only 2 of 3 were on varsity roster at Don Bosco last season, Michael Gillespie and Michael Taussi, and Reece Morris is the other transfer.
Clarkstown Scrimmages Mamaroneck tonight 8pm.
Things Ned really wanted to know:
Did the kids leave Bosco because of role model preferences?
Will any of them perhaps recognize and report Ned as he makes the section one bathroom rounds
Can any of them explain the phrase “old time hockey”
how was the scrimmage betwween clarkstown n mammo
It’s tonight 8pm
Are they clarkstown residents, or is clarkstwon taking a page out of another rockland teams book.? Weird that 3 from bosco would all come back to their hometown at the same time, from the same school and entering the same new school? DId they bomb out at Bosco?
There is no reason for CLarkstown NOT to be a perennial contender every year. Two large AA schools combined (unprecedented), rink nearby, wealth in the community that can afford the trappings of ice hockey. If they are NOT good, then something is wrong.
They are residents, according to last year’s Don Bosco roster.
mamaroneck definitely looked stronger tonight in the scrimmage. don’t know what all the hype for clarkstown was for.
Scrimmage was very competitive. Mamo takes reg time 2-1.
mamo was looking very strong on defense, letting up very few shots, on offence they had many opportunities but had trouble putting it in. all and all mamaroneck was a much better team
mamo was looking very strong on defense, letting up very few shots, on offense they had many opportunities but had trouble putting it in. all and all mamaroneck was a much better team
False. Mamo came out stronger for the 1st 7min. It
Settled down after that. Clarkstown did have opportunities, but Mamo had more. More importantly, clarkstown ran 4 lines to Mamo’s 3. If clarkstown ran is top 3 lines the game would have been even. The lone clarkstown goal made the Mamo captain look real bad. Kid spun around like a dradel.
by the way it was 3 to 1 mamo and they did work everyone in. Clarkstown kids were punks taking runs
Was 2-1 and no one took any runs. Get a life.
Lots of kids transfer out when they realize they have no shot at making the varsity roster.
Sad that a combo team of two AA schools still cant beat a single AA school. Maybe Mamaroneck should partner up with New Rochelle so they can be the new huge combo team. Mamk had the much better skaters that is for sure. Mamaroneck played everybody by the way, stop trying to make it like they did not. The goggled ref should hang up his skates, in a scrimmage he lost control of the game. THis guy has been a joke for year, and can not objectively ref even a scrimmage if it comes to Mamaroneck. Just get rid of 80% of the westchester refs and let the rockland refs take all the workload.
Sad? IT WAS A SCRIMMAGE. Clarkstown played 4 plus lines and 3 goalies! Get over your obsession with the merger. Look upstate and there are way bigger mergers.
Who cares about upstate. That is talking apples and oranges. Clarkstown is a wealthy area, probably the wealthiest in Rockland. Sad, just sad. You are right, it was a scrimmage. Who cares? Obviously Chap does as he got tossed from the game and some kids never hit the ice. I stand corrected, I thought I saw 4th line get on the ice. But Apparently I am wrong and I admit it. Ridiculous to take a scrimmage and not let everyone show what they got. Chap must trying to get the most preseason wins by any NY State coach. If those 4th liners did not get on the ice in a scrimmage…. it is gonna be a long long season for those kids. Bring a book and read it on the bench.
This argument is going to go on until the Clarkstown and Mamaroneck play each other again on 1/10/12.
Or Rocketman gets a life and stops bashing everyone except Chap. Also, fyi Montebello (Suffern) is the wealthiest in Rockland. You’re an idiot
Clarkstown Combo’s (their new official snack and mascot), will not compete for section 1 title. Based on what I could see. Mamaroneck is better than them, but I don’t think they will make it to the finals either. This could be ETB’s year.
Thanks or… but I am NOT “bashing” anyone. Calling me an idiot IS bashing though.
Nothing unusual of kids returning from private to their public school district. It’s very common in hockey (Rye goalie, Scarsdale goalie from couple of years ago, older Pesce brother returning to SH/I from RCDS, Matt Willows, etc). If 2 of the c town kids were on Bosco varsity as freshman and sophomore, well that’s not an easy accomplishment and tells me they are pretty good too.
Although it is very common for this to happen, you cant compare them with the likes of brad pesce and matt willows. 2 of the 3 players were on varsity but were either glued to the bench or couldnt find the net the entire season. They will make clarkstown a better and deeper team but they wont be winning a section title any time soon.
What do you think the deal with Clarkstown’s goalie’s will be? Last years starter Levy’s performance in this scrimmage was abysmal. The other two looked solid.
Sneaky,
Should we reserve our praise only when “elite” players return to section 1? Does everyone else deserve scorn as not being able to make it.
Bosco hockey is very competitive. Many very good players spend 3 years on JV and are cut as seniors. To be on V as a 9th or 10th grader speaks to being pretty darn good, or at the least potentially very good. However, nothing wrong with figuring out that I could have a more enjoyable experience, or perhaps better afford, my home public school.
Clarkstown South/North won’t be winning the section this year, but in the coming years, after this historic 2 year class of Suffern finally clears out (Jaeger, Baker, Nicholson, Fuchs, Redgate, Sanchez, Scholer, Adler…) South/North should be in the mix every year…
Like Rocket says, the logistics and demographics (two AA sized schools, high demographics, a very local rink-lots of ice , and what looks like a good relation ship with the lnew ocal travel team, as opposed to the now defunct “anti-Clarkstown” Capitals) would make it surprising if they did NOT contend each year.
Rocket fuel are you retarded? Rockland refs are a joke. half Cant even skate
Al,
Being on the varsity doesnt imply anything. They do have a good team for new york public high school standards but not for the private schools. So if you played decent trravel your entire life, you could make that team your sophmore year as a fifth liner. The ELITE sophmores actually contribute to the team. Having the players back will significantly help clarkstown but the talent wont be there for a championship any time soon. So unless any players returning from different schools wont greatly improve a team’s chances at a section title, they should not be mentioned. Case closed.
As for the demographics of clarkstown. the reason they dont produce contending team year in and year out is beacuse of the rink. No one wants to play at the mall.. No one. Schools like suffern pride themselves with their rink even if it is crap. Also suffern has many skates/clincis with the youth of the town bringing in interest at an early age. Has clarkstown ever done anything liike this?
To answer the previous post. No, I’m not retarded. I’m handi-capable.
As for clarkstowns prima donnas who don’t want to play at the mall…. Boo hoo. Be happy u have a rink. I don’t hear white plains crying about playing and practicing in an outdoor rink when it’s slushy on 70 degree days and when the temps hit 20 degrees with a wind chill of 2 degrees. Be happy that at least the palisades is indoors and you can eat at the restaurants or see a movie 5 minutes after practice.
It’s pretty obvious that Rocket has a vendetta against Clarkstown and its players. Who knows…maybe he was one of the 3 kids that didn’t make the varisty team. I doubt it though, he’s probably an over the hill ex-player who wanted to have his kid fulfill his dream…only to realize his kid’s dream had little to do with hockey skates and more to do with figure skates. Oh well, ther’s always the ice capades.
Keep your clarkstown hatred to yourself, these are kids. Kids who have been working hard all summer and have come together to make their dream come true….even if yours didnt.
Palisades Rink issues…
We will see. Many past issues have been about the “anti”-Clarkstown Capitals. That org has been replaced. Supposedly a much more friendly pro-clarkstown group is in charge. Only first year operating so lets wait and see..
But a rink is a rink. Its not ideal..a little smaller than standard, clumsily located on the 3rd floor, but also, Joe keeps it clean, large lockerrooms, parent firendly for drop off and shopping..and easy access for 7 high schools if you include Sleepy Hollow and Irvington HS’s too.
I don’t think Rocket is against Clarkstown. He just questions the merger…and I do agree on that.
No more great North-South hockey rivalry…and if you think it doesn’t exist, attend one of the rivalry football or basketball games…or worse yet, and regretably, observe what occurred with the schools exchange of graffitti at each others high schools.
There were other legitimate cost saving plans for hockey, that would have preserved both programs…but somehow the adminstrators were cajoled into this plan, at the expense of more kids playing hockey…
Thinking CTown, New Ro, WP and RTH all in the mix for that 4th semifinal slot in DI. Mamo and ETB a step ahead. Suffern a few more ahead of those two. A Suffern vs. ETB final would be interesting.
Al Bundy, right on the money. I have no problem with Clarkstown. C-Town, where is all that anger coming from? Vendetta? No, I am probably more abrasive than Al Bundy when I say the merger is a joke. NEVER have I said anything about any of the players. If you can point out where I have…. I’ll never post again. I never rip players. I question the adults who should know better, and who don’t want to work to keep two seperate teams. It was the path of least resistance to merge the two teams. So now kids will get cut, and others will get little to no playing time because the roster is huge. High School sports is not about creating a juggernaut… its about keeping kids active, giving them something positive to do after school.
In reality, I hope Clarkstown competes well with the top D1 teams. It is boring if it is always the same teams. However, I will never warm up to the idea of merging teams when it is not necessary.
Rocket, to your point, I understand a lot of kids were cut from the c-town modified.
In total 3 kids were cut from modifed and 3 from varsity.
That’s a misleading stat since you don’t know how many didn’t even try out because of the numbers game. You lose the kids who give it a shot in 7th or 8th grade having never really played much and those are the kids who provide “depth” when they are juniors and seniors. Your long-time travel players and those who started as mites occupy your first line/line and a half and those kids who are now not trying out are the ones who fill out the second and third lines.
I was told “around ten” cut from modified. Admittedly this information was from an unhappy parent whose kid did not make modified. Is it possible this was an exaggeration… of course it could be.
But the essence of what Lohud says is correct…the second half of most teams are usually stocked with non-travel players. This has been the usual case at South and North. Just glad to be on the team, learning to love hockey, accepting of minimal ice time.
No longer the case now. 7th and 8th graders are fickle. They get cut, most will just move on…but we lose another potential hockey player.
I think the ETB merger is worse.
^ I’m curious for your explanation. None of those towns would actually be able to sustain programs on their own. Bronxville has 13 kids on the team, Eastchester 11, and Tuckahoe 1. And, they don’t have cuts. Plus, with that combined enrollment, they’re just barely a D1 school, not like combining 2 AA schools, not even close.
quit bitching about the teams and just worry about the game
Just FYI. Mamaroneck Modified has 40 kids come out for the team. 5 or 6 8th grade kids got moved to the JV. Mamaroneck modified is carrying 34 kids. Did not make cuts. Not sure if they will all dress for every game, but the fact that Mamaroneck is giving kids a chance to harness their skills for a few years before they go for varsity means that Coach Chap will have a great situation in which all kids were given a shot early on to leap frog kids. Hilarious that Clarkstown is cutting kids on modified. They could have just let everyone practice and be on the team, and then just rotate which 20 will suit up every game based on the competition. Clarkstown could learn something from Mamaroneck. Kudos to them for busting their humps to keep ALL the kids in the program and give them something positive to do with their time. It can’t be easy.
For a lot of kids, modified hockey is the first time they’ve ever played hockey, often just borrowing equipment just to try out.
Most grade school kids play seasonal baseball, basketball, football/soccer. This isn’t Canada where its normalto be exposed to hockey as a pre-schooler.
But alot of middle school kids looking to fill the winter-sports void have taken advantage of the modified program to take up the hockey. They are way behind there travel team classmates, who’ve been playing since the early grades. But many are very good athletes who after being exposed to the game, want to continue playing. I’ve seen a couple become very good players, and continue to play after high school, both college club or men’s rec leagues.
Eastchester and Bronxville always had separate teams before the merger. I may be wrong but I am under the impression that a merger should accomplish a few different things. It should give kids a chance to play the sport. It should also grow the sport. I would think that a merger is in place to create interest, keep the sport going, and allow some interest to bring new players in and eventually have enough players to get rid of the merger. To my knowledge no new teams have come out of mergers. I know ETB has a huge modified group? Bronxville also has a very strong youth hockey network and group. They should be able to stand on their own soon? Unless they don`t want to?